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I know this has been mentioned by Kerberos at Piestar.net, but then I also realize that we just don’t have enough Lunduke-bagging over here.

“But, just the same, I have immense respect and admiration for what the teams behind these desktop environments have achieved. They have thrown out the conventional wisdom of what a 'desktop’ is and built the user experiences that they felt needed to be built.”

Well, that’s fair enough. But, hang on – there’s more:

Some of the big new and exciting changes? Some applications can run full screen and your desktop can now be a row of icons that launch applications (just like iOS devices).

I’m not kidding. Those are two of the top demo-able, new features. Features taken from a mobile OS (iOS) and forced into a desktop OS.”

So, his argument is essentially that when Canonical forces a mobile interface (i.e. Unity) into the desktop space, that’s admirable, but when Apple does the same thing with iOS, that somehow comes across him as a joke. C’mon, Bryan – double-standard is one thing, but espousing it in such a blatant way is another.

And you expect LHB or anyone to take you seriously?

#1 Posted by KOMMENTER on Jun 22, 2011 9:39 AM

The iOS additions that apple is bringing to the desktop are nothing special but at least they’re an improvement.

Unity is just BROKEN beyond reason.

I do find it funny how lunduke says “i just couldn’t like it” as if he has some kind of moral obligation to like Unity. It f*cking sucks.

When the biggest ubuntu fanboy on the planet thinks unity is unusable you really need to rethink what you’re doing canonical.

To be fair, I’m pretty disappointed with windows 8… Tablet UI on top of a Desktop UI means it’ll suck on tablets and suck on the desktop. Not that it’s good for both.

#2 Posted by administrator on Jun 22, 2011 1:28 PM

I think the “hubs” idea in Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 is where most personal computing is going. Nobody wants to have 5 apps open to keep track of twitter, facebook, instant messages, etc. They want similar data grouped, they don’t care about the actual applications serving it.

I’ll have confirmation when Apple duplicates it.

#3 Posted by Linsuxoid on Jun 22, 2011 1:53 PM

> Tablet UI on top of a Desktop UI means it’ll suck on tablets and suck on the desktop.

OMG! How dare they are to make it able to do something other than running Agnry Birds?!!!

From all presentation, I’ve seen, it looks that if you only need table-oriented workflows – you’ll never need to switch to “classic” desktop.

So, you can browse in touch-oriented IE10, watch movies, use social networks, play Angry Birds, etc.. THEN, when you’ve got to your workplace, you attach keyboard, mouse (and, for instance, two 27” monitors) and continue using SAME machine right away. No synchronization necessary (even though it’s been told that Win8 will sync to SkyDrive automatically), no different OS necessary. Side benefit: while you’re docked, your tablet is charging – so you don’t have to remember to charge it.

#4 Posted by Linsuxoid on Jun 22, 2011 2:04 PM

Photoshop users can continue using tablet screen as digitizer.

#5 Posted by KOMMENTER on Jun 22, 2011 2:39 PM

“So, you can browse in touch-oriented IE10, watch movies, use social networks, play Angry Birds, etc.. THEN, when you’ve got to your workplace, you attach keyboard, mouse (and, for instance, two 27” monitors) and continue using SAME machine right away. No synchronization necessary (even though it’s been told that Win8 will sync to SkyDrive automatically), no different OS necessary. Side benefit: while you’re docked, your tablet is charging – so you don’t have to remember to charge it.”

“I think the “hubs” idea in Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 is where most personal computing is going”

See, there’s 2 things here. If tablets do become powerful enough to be desktop replacements, I could see this idea from microsoft to actually KINDA SORTA work. It would be a good idea, although I’d rather just have the option to choose which desktop to login into.

However, from the standpoint of installing this on my desktop, it’s crap. I don’t mind having all that “connectivity” stuff in it, but it just makes no sense to have a tablet UI on top of a desktop UI. I’m gaining nothing from it, just an annoyance.
It should be integrated INTO the desktop, not just a stupid layer on top.

Tablet UI’s do not work with the mouse and Desktop UI’s do not work with touchscreens. 2 completely different paradigms.
Apple understood this with the iPad.

It does nothing to improve my workflow the way the windows 7 taskbar does.

Gnome 3 has some very good ideas in this regard, it’s just the implementation is lacking and the absolute lack of any kind of customization kills it.

#6 Posted by imgx64 on Jun 22, 2011 9:47 PM

I guess after a certain amount of Kool-Aid, everything starts to look rosy on Linux.

I wonder when Kraft started to add alcohol to Kool-Aid..

#7 Posted by KOMMENTER on Jun 23, 2011 11:03 AM

Is that directed at me?
I’m the biggest linux hater around here (well, joe monco might be more). And I do mean linux hater, I hate the community more, but I sure do hate linux too since I have to work with it.

I’ve been missing for a long time, unity brought me back… IT’S SO HORRIBLE. How can anyone even support that thing?

Gnome 3 has good ideas that were just implemented horribly. I don’t criticize everything they do. That would bring me down to their (the 'community’) level.

#8 Posted by imgx64 on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM

No, it’s directed at the article. Sorry if I gave you such impression.

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