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“We need to stop painting lipstick on a giant pig. There are no intentions to help maintain the current disaster of a half-baked product anymore. Core developers are getting sick of the argument that we can cope with the bloat by doing “more marketing and training new contributors”. That’s simply not true and utterly wrong, because it doesn’t remove the burden from existing contributors, consumes a lot of time, and also scaling has an end”

If only more people would dedicate their time in the true open source fashion and fix bugs they find themselves…oh wait.

#1 Posted by Ian on Sep 11, 2011 8:25 PM

I have never understood how anyone could say Drupal is light. Because I have had many people tell me that, and when I tested it out and was using it for the heck of it, I couldn’t see the lightness anywhere.

When I tried out Drupal 7, the control panel interface was horrid and confusing. I just could not understand what people saw in it.

Doesn’t Drupal get lots of contributions from bigger companies too? I thought I heard something along those lines, but I could be imagining it.

Who’s idea was it to run government websites on Drupal?

#2 Posted by imgx64 on Sep 11, 2011 10:14 PM

“Who’s idea was it to run government websites on Drupal?”

Obama, of course.

#3 Posted by masterLoki on Sep 11, 2011 10:18 PM

“Drupal core blocks its very own modernization and innovation, and started to heavily lack behind competitors and the overall industry in the past years. It is a stupidly old, poor, and monolothic beast.”

Then StartFromScratch™ which is what commonly follows when a project collapses. Still waiting for a decent version of XMMS2

#4 Posted by Ian on Sep 11, 2011 10:26 PM

> Then StartFromScratch™ which is what commonly follows when a project collapses.

or ForkIt™... Does no one (I mean in the open source world) see what happens when stuff is open source? It’s fork after fork after fork! Don’t like it? Fork it and do what you want with it so work is distributed across multiple similar projects instead of focused on one.

Sure, I guess that keeps a project from completely disappearing compared to it being closed source, but having many different “distros” isn’t any good either.

Will there be different distros of Drupal soon? I mean, are there already?

#5 Posted by Ian on Sep 11, 2011 10:32 PM
#6 Posted by administrator on Sep 11, 2011 10:34 PM

I’d say starting from scratch is often better than forking. Starting from scratch lets you learn from your past mistakes, forking simply encourages you to maintain the legacy of those mistakes.

Worse still, excessive forking gets confusing as hell. At least if you have successors (say JQuery succeeding Prototype) all the previous code all still works.

#7 Posted by masterLoki on Sep 11, 2011 11:24 PM

I’d say ForkIt™ but after they read this http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

Obviously they should do things no one wants to do (RefactoringIsNotFunny™) and train the Linux Youth, but why on hell would anyone do this boring stuff?

#8 Posted by Ian on Sep 11, 2011 11:27 PM

Well, working on a content management system with PHP codez is much easier… Then they can work up to the mess that is the Linux kernel!

#9 Posted by kurkosdr on Sep 12, 2011 5:53 AM

“Obama, of course.”

Yeah, Obama also decides what make and model the radars in Alaska will be. It doesn’t work this way. The guy in charge of the site, who was appointed by the guy in charge of the IT systems, who was appointed by the guy in charge of something else etc… made the decision.

Anyway, if you were building a website today, what CRM software would you use? (proprietary or free, doesn’t matter)

#10 Posted by imgx64 on Sep 12, 2011 10:04 AM

“Yeah, Obama also decides what make and model the radars in Alaska will be.”

Of course! That’s what socialist secret-Muslims born outside the USA do!

(In case someone still doesn’t get it, I was being sarcastic. I’m just sick of reading irrelevant comments about Obama on the internet)

#11 Posted by Chlorus on Sep 13, 2011 3:43 AM

Glad to hear it IMGX64. I got pissed off when everyone started blaming Bush for every little problem(I once heard some woman bitch at him for bad traffic) and now I get pissed off when they blame Obama for all of life’s ills. They’re presidents, not smegging gods.

#12 Posted by Adam_King on Sep 13, 2011 5:36 PM

Drupal is awesome. It’s also sponsored and used by the US Government. This article is FUD.

#13 Posted by masterLoki on Sep 13, 2011 6:10 PM

“Drupal is awesome”

Says the guy who can’t (even) code (in PHP).

#14 Posted by Adam_King on Sep 13, 2011 6:11 PM

I can outcode anywhere here. You are all idiots. Especially you masterLoki.

#15 Posted by masterLoki on Sep 13, 2011 6:15 PM

Beg you pardon? Outcode? Is that even a word?

#16 Posted by Ian on Sep 13, 2011 6:52 PM

Then show us some code! ;-)

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