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Not exactly FUD and a bit old, but rather amusing IMHO.

TL;DR The article dissects how Shuttleworth – nervous, because he is burning cash with no end in sight and faster than you could say G N E W SLASH Linux – effectively shows the middle finger to the so called community.

#1 Posted by Platonica on Nov 7, 2011 12:19 PM

Mark Shuttleworth in the bug report discussed by your FUD: “We have about 20 million users today”

Are there really 20 million people using Ubuntu?

#2 Posted by unixisc on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 PM

Why is all this an issue? Let them do what they’ve done so far – create 2 new distros for the 2 new DEs, just like they have Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu. Create a Gubuntu for Gnome 2, leave Ubuntu w/ Unity and if they think it’s worth it, start another for Gnome 3. That way, THEY can be the ones to fork it.

#3 Posted by Platonica on Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM

If you’ll excuse the double post…I do like Shuttleworth’s remark here in the comments:

“What we’re told in this case, however, is that “if you don’t change this we’re leaving”. OK fine. If only. Instead of leaving, what we get is continued haranguing.”

XD

#4 Posted by ChrisTX on Nov 7, 2011 5:57 PM

I blame Shuttleworth for unrealistic expectations here. If you build upon Linux and the community, well what except for a bunch of basement campers wanting you to deliver the UX of a commercial OS for free do you think you get?

Also, Unity was really developed with substandard testing methods. Microsoft uses eye trackers and what else, what does Oombooboo have? O rite, a netbook UI on my desktop.

#5 Posted by administrator on Nov 7, 2011 6:38 PM

He should have been a little more bold and said he was going to build a commercial distro and leverage Linux. Oh wait, that’s what Google did with Android.

For all the issues Android has, it’s still successful and has significantly more than 20 million (theoretical) users.

#6 Posted by DrLoser on Nov 8, 2011 5:30 AM

I never understood the concept of Ubuntu in the first place. “Everything is fine. There’s nothing actually wrong with Linux. It just needs a little more lipstick.” And Shuttleworth is the man to provide it …

... someone with no engineering ability, no design ability, and as far as I can see no marketing ability.

I mean if Linux was fine before he came along, why exactly did he think his rather expensive $0.02 was worth adding?

And if it wasn’t, why didn’t he fix something? (Wayland doesn’t count.)

I agree about Android. Google have inherited some of the classic flaws of FOSS (fragmentation, total lack of design ability), but at least they’re going some way to making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear (to use another porcine metaphor).

#7 Posted by kurkosdr on Nov 8, 2011 8:44 AM

“I never understood the concept of Ubuntu in the first place. “Everything is fine. There’s nothing actually wrong with Linux. It just needs a little more lipstick.” And Shuttleworth is the man to provide it …”

I guess that summarizes everything about the Linux Desktop.

Anyway, I am GLAD to see Ubuntu and it’s “release every 6 months even if it’s broken” method to be replaced by Mint’s “when it’s done” method. If I don’t have much stuff to do during Christmas, I might try to have Mint as a secondary OS for my Windows PC, as an experiment. If it doesn’t break things as often as Ubuntu, I might keep it.

#8 Posted by Adam_King on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 AM

It’s FUD alright. Not the article, but your post. Go read up on what “FUD” actually means if you don’t get it.

#9 Posted by DrLoser on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM

Since when does “hilarity” come under the heading of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, Adam?

You really are a humourless little prune, aren’t you?

#10 Posted by Gesh on Nov 8, 2011 11:54 AM

Well, Adam, if it is really a FUD, call Microsoft, preach them a bit about freedom and tell them to send me a check (to Shuttleworth too, soon he is gonna need it). Go read up on freedom, if you think a sh*tty OS is gonna make you free.

#11 Posted by Adam_King on Nov 8, 2011 1:15 PM

Gesh,

I’m sorry Mafia$oft isn’t paying you for your valuable services, but that’s your problem, not mine.

You could learn a lot from DrLoser about paid a paid M$ shill, considering he actually is one.

#12 Posted by Adam_King on Nov 8, 2011 1:15 PM

paid a paid = being a paid

#13 Posted by DrLoser on Nov 8, 2011 1:35 PM

Better a paid shill than an unpaid raving lunatic, Adam.

#14 Posted by DrLoser on Nov 8, 2011 3:41 PM

“More importantly, trying to accommodate too many different variants would result in a far buggier product, with far less usability.” – Shuttleworth.

Two major desktops. Four or five minor desktops. Two audio stacks. 57 Heinzy text editors. Two, three, or four mail clients. Even two or three Office Suites, and you don’t even have to include OOo and Libre … there’s always KOffice and I seem to recall a GnomeOffice.

And that’s not even including the number of file navigators.

Way to go with the non-buggy, superlatively usable system, Mark.

#15 Posted by DrLoser on Nov 8, 2011 3:57 PM

I don’t know about “getting nervous,” btw, but I like to picture him taking a phone-call from his parents in South Africa.

“We were so proud of you, sonny, when you became a multi-millionaire. And that space thing! And the pictures of you smiling in the papers! Your great-auntie Millie Kaffir-Bascher even sent us a postcard!

“Now, what’s all this money-losing crap with some twenty five year old waste of space from Finland?”

#16 Posted by unixisc on Nov 8, 2011 4:06 PM

“More importantly, trying to accommodate too many different variants would result in a far buggier product, with far less usability.” – Shuttleworth.

In that case, what exactly is Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu? All are knock-offs of Ubuntu, but w/ different UIs

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