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Don’t get me wrong here – I am not trying to have a goad at Borean’s ex-pet. I just find the way Borean mixes his retort to my (as well as a good number of fellow TMR regulars’) comments on his 2009 fluff piece with an obituary of his beagle two months after the fact kind of… You know, odd.

Anyhow, if you are a jerk like me, then, by all means, simply skim though Borean’s personal plea for extra prescriptions for sympathy and just start reading from the “Found on the Road Dead” subheading.

“I’ve collapsed the details of the fix, all you need to see is that Microsoft is calling out a Client and a Server version of NT3.1. The commented has gone so far as to claim that Microsoft’s website is lying by inference.”

No joke, except the part that none of this was actually what I said.

Photo of Windows NT 3.1 installation CD

Source: Windows Versions Features

The above photo shows a Windows NT 3.1 installation CD as packaged and sold by Microsoft. Notice the complete absence of the word “Workstation” on the entirety of the printed surface. That’s right – like Borean’s late Beagle obituary, Microsoft only decided to begin using “Workstation” as part of product name some time after the fact, namely, when they released NT 3.5 in the following year.

Of course, none of these minor details would matter if you discounted the fact that Microsoft didn’t even bother to add the extra restrictions pertaining to a Windows “Workstation” release until version 3.5 either. This included the well-known 10 SMB client limit for non-server Windows releases, which you can find even in current Windows versions. All this, at the end of the day, simply serves as little icing on the cake as to how shaky and ridiculously unsubstantiated Borean’s claim about Windows “not designed for a networked environment” really is. But, then again, the claim that “Windows 8 is going to have a security system that is a lot like what Unix/Linux has” by itself ought to show well enough already that the man hardly even has the ability to tell what an AD server is or how GPO works – let alone the strengths and weaknesses of different security paradigms.

And because I am such a jerk, I have even posted this FUD tracker entry to his blog as a gesture of my condolences. Your disgust towards my insensitivity is most definitely welcome.

#1 Posted by reactosguy on Aug 10, 2011 10:39 AM

The link he gave us is kinda dubious.

  • Microsoft Windows NT Advanced Server 3.1
  • Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 3.1
  • Microsoft Windows NT Advanced Server 3.1

It’s possible that the editor may have made a mistake.

#2 Posted by DrLoser on Aug 10, 2011 4:08 PM

1590 hits if you search for removing Mono on Ubuntu? Dear Lord, it’s no wonder the Loons are ecstatic about a 1% market share. They simply have no concept of number. Here, I’m going to try a random three word search (I promise, random): Aubergine political artefact. Hmm, that’s about 1,350,000, but political artefact makes too much sense. Let’s replace artefact with Canonical, which never makes sense.

That’s 745,000. I sense I could be here for hours. Still, Wayne has nothing better to do, apparently.

#3 Posted by DrLoser on Aug 10, 2011 5:35 PM

Goddamn, I have to give this up. I like shooting fish in a barrel.

But only if they’re not on medication for severe mental incapacity.

Do fish suffer from mental incapacity? How would you measure it? A job for w3cschools, I think.

#4 Posted by imgx64 on Aug 10, 2011 11:27 PM

I never understood the “Mono is the Devil’s spawn! Get it out of the distro! Get it out!” mentality.

Even if we assume1 that Mono is indeed evil (For example, Microsoft is going to sue you someday), they’re using Linux because it’s customizable and “lets them do whatever they want”. Why do they have to harass everyone who uses their own computers differently? Just use the Ubuntu “alternative” CD and only install the packages you want. Sheesh.

[1] Just an assumption. I don’t agree with it.

#5 Posted by Conzo on Aug 11, 2011 4:32 AM

Dead doggies break my heart though :’(

And seeing that – in comparison to most of his 'colleagues’ – seems less full of cramped up anger, I thought it’s a good idea to be nice to him.

Still, with regard to the discussion, he failed to make a case at all, at all.

Taking all bets as to when he’ll counter the NT vs. TOOS ... lines now open.

#6 Posted by Wayne_Borean on Aug 11, 2011 5:54 PM


Take a break, get some caffeine, and think. Did I once say that “Mono is the Devil’s spawn!”

Sheesh. People. Can’t live with then. Can’t use nuclear weapons on them. Read this.

And as to Sam, he owned me, I didn’t own him.


#7 Posted by DrLoser on Aug 11, 2011 7:23 PM

I hope you are properly chastised, IMGX64.

Jeez, of all the people to pick for a response. It’s a bit weird, really. You’re rational, we’re all rational, but apparently the stench of M$ is too strong even to reply to the rest of us.

I’d like to say that you are the favoured child but … hmmm. Not the sort of favouritism that appeals to me.

#8 Posted by imgx64 on Aug 12, 2011 2:38 AM


You didn’t say it literally. I didn’t even say that you said it; I said that was your mentality. It was pretty much the point of your article: Microsoft created C#, and Mono implements C#, thus Mono is a Microsoft product.

Mono is NOT a Microsoft product, Microsoft never gave a single line of code to Mono. The only connection between Microsoft and Mono is the C# standard (ECMA-334 and ISO/IEC 23270). If that’s your criterion for a “Microsoft product”, then you should stop using whatever web browser you are using now because Microsoft is one of the contributors to the HTML standard.

Mozilla Firefox (DANGER, Microsoft Inside!)

Google Chrome (DANGER, Microsoft Inside!)

There, you said you wanted a warning.

#9 Posted by JoeMonco on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 AM

“Take a break, get some caffeine, and think. Did I once say that 'Mono is the Devil’s spawn!’”

So is that why you are here, eh? Picking on little kids that can’t fight back?

Well, having said that, I think you do deserve some credit for at least not having a goad at poor lil’ Cheezoid.

From Borean’s blog:

“I wasn’t trying too. I was trying to redirect the conversation to the present, which I seem to have succeeded in doing.”

You see – about a year ago we had this little fellow called “hoppimike” who tried to pull the same thing you are pulling here. The fact that you are apparently no better than a twenty-four-year-old who blogged about “feeling so sad” on a daily basis is just a bit, you know, unsettling.

#10 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM

Hoppi was depressive, quite sad to see that really.

But Wayne writes about having to take medicine, and about how they cause him (temporary?) mental problems…

I wonder if he is over sensitive to stressful events (say computer malfunctions and data loss/inaccessibility).

If he is that could explain his attitude towards MS – something went wrong during the Classic Windows era* and he is unable to shake the negative emotions ever since.

  • And as we all know, everybody blames MS for anything that goes wrong with their computer.
#11 Posted by AzureSky on Oct 22, 2012 3:35 AM

if this dudes over sensitive to stressful events like data loss or malfunctions he better not use pc's at all....dear lord.......the number of mac's with bad hdd's i have seen in the last 2 years....many of them with REFERB hdds in them direct from apple brand new.....with a referb hdd......LOL (not saying referb is bad, but for the prices apple charges you should never get a referb anything when you buy apple....) 

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